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One other piece of information that was brought to our captain, the Deputy Town Council, um, deposition, the, and that's Brooklyn House came happen two weeks, chron higher position. Another came and the man said last time that they attend filling that position, it took just under five months. We hopes that will be the case at this time, but it is a position has, so Deputy, deputy town council counsel. Well, having said that, um, people with these, uh, cell phone, telephone expenses, they not considered income. So they have to be put into the salary. The money has to be put into the salary of the individual. Um, like management legal, notice the telephone . There is no money by to Sal considered income. Just like a lot of people don't realize if they have a car, car, that's gonna done as well, with the exception as opposed . So that, uh, make, make a motion that accepting legal taxation for five 50.4 9 23. Thank you.\n\nSpeaker 3: Second questions.","timeStart":0.045,"timeEnd":148.315,"chunkIndex":0},{"id":"f671b899-df93-4bb8-a4a1-d218c56ae22a","content":"Speaker 2: The telephone expenses, again, I'll, I'll see them. Can either salary board, I don't know how, how they do, um, explain enough of income. I don't know how they, it's, it's taxable. Yeah. I, most of the, the budgets that have like clothing allowances and they go into stite or whatever, they're not salary. I think cell phones follow the same thing as automobile. Automobile. You have an automobile right here. That's, that's the Right, I, I, I understand that. But, but as far as reporting the budget, I know it is not, I don't see it in the salaries. No, I, I, I don't. And zero added the, so other words, are we gonna go zero request for telephone? Yes. Oh, okay. So we're go zero. Okay. Um, no, I just, I'm good.\n\nSpeaker 3: Anybody else on? So, oh,\n\nSpeaker 2: Good job.\n\nSpeaker 3: I dunno if there's anything\n\nSpeaker 2: Else you wanna add.","timeStart":153.335,"timeEnd":238.555,"chunkIndex":1},{"id":"4e55a4a4-128e-4d2c-90d0-ac34d33db661","content":"Speaker 3: Um, I know you just, um, so off path is, I think the numbers are fine. Um, I'm disappointed. Those who have been here heard me the past four years, but the details haven't been put out, um, as requested. So one month item, we don't see office advice, we don't see membership due legal fees to the Bar Association, et cetera. Um, speaking, when we talk to the manager's office, what are the issues is that means when the manager's office did a 10% cut on printing, for example, it didn't hit the legal department because they don't have that line. So I So I'm disappointed that it hasn't happened yet. Um, I think we've got promises that it will be next year, so I would be in favor of review budget, but understanding that next year, well, if we , we don't have more detail. So it matches every other department and\n\nSpeaker 2: Yeah,\n\nSpeaker 3: I think this is something dream\n\nSpeaker 2: Up.\n\nSpeaker 3: Yeah. And we have I think turnover and whose responsibility is it to have it done and there . It just seems to, it's not a big deal. It's one of those cleanup items. So I think it just falls through the cracks year after year. Um, but it would be nice to have more transparency there, but the numbers aren't surprising. Anyway.\n\nSpeaker 2: I mentioned that we had asked if we could see, tell me to review that hopefully had at least not this year, but next, next time along.\n\nSpeaker 3: Right. And we had asked them previously, like I, I remember sitting, because we meet with the town manager's office,\n\nSpeaker 2: I mentioned that this is, we've asked this","timeStart":239.095,"timeEnd":354.425,"chunkIndex":2},{"id":"2d11d9b5-7bea-4671-9aab-551553c576dd","content":"Speaker 3: Multiple times.\n\nSpeaker 2: We heard to\n\nSpeaker 3: Yes. So it was disappointing not to see it fixed this year when there were promises last year, that would be, but you know, it's, you're comfortable with the,\n\nSpeaker 2: Is the word Yes, but it's built into a, remember they, they reorganized the type of music . So they find deposition with other responsibilities within, and that's why you have counsel. Oh, if you work comp. Yeah.\n\nSpeaker 3: And Dave, you mentioned the vacancy. Yes.\n\nSpeaker 2: Because that's vacant. Will they have more outside legal fees?\n\nSpeaker 3: He's asking if it's vacant. Is it possible have not outside legal fees?\n\nSpeaker 2: Um, I wouldn't say no, but , if something comes up, they have to be twice then it, it happened normal like they do other. Huh? Do you know if that position's frozen? It's not frozen.\n\nSpeaker 3: It's not frozen. And it was vacant not that long ago. 'cause the, uh, Michael was in a position and then he moved up and when he moved up the vacant again, so it's one that has been vacant before. They managed it. He, he knew how to manage it when he had loved it vacant. So I'm assuming he knows how to manage it now again. But\n\nSpeaker 2: I recall that there was a, uh, reserve fund of some sort for workman's comp. Do you know where that is? Is is there still a reserve\n\nSpeaker 3: It in the past when we've asked him, they pushed us off to the iur, whoever does, I think in your insurance.\n\nSpeaker 2: Yeah.\n\nSpeaker 3: Budget.\n\nSpeaker 2: That was","timeStart":355.225,"timeEnd":487.695,"chunkIndex":3},{"id":"74f19db9-5c1b-4b5a-a10d-ec243a8f242c","content":"Speaker 3: Questions on legal. All. There's a motion for 5 4 4 9 3. Two second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed any ab extensions? Uh,\n\nSpeaker 2: Who subject? Hmm, . Um, anybody ? Um, the salary on page 14, uh, there's really not that much going on here. Um, we talked about a couple of plans. Uh, first of all, uh, that the fire department that, um, have , um, the salary of line item doesn't reflect the upcoming, uh, basically talk about that. Um, once good police department has, um, now, now exempt from state civil service entry hiring requirements as of last March, uh, which means they can, um, did not bound by the, the civil service process that the state resources division, the exam and the list and things like that. So, um, they're partnering, uh, entity called Get com, get com, uh, that actually administers account will do their own task. And I'm sent a list to qualify candidates. The, um, she said the, uh, candidate should increase percent pretty, um, unfortunately their timing stink because, um, uh, they have two vacancies, officer Vacan, um, but they can't fill because advantage flexibility.","timeStart":492.635,"timeEnd":631.925,"chunkIndex":4},{"id":"97bdf69c-8494-46ab-8c32-0ba3bac2fe0b","content":"Speaker 2: Um, and then senior C can take US design. So they've got three vacancies that are caught up in higher . Um, then a couple of the wine items, the, um, bike patrol for the minute and Bikeways, um, the town proton manager, um, that eliminated the extra patrols. That's, that accounts for the decrease there. Um, and now they're doing the standard, uh, patrols, which is every four hours, uh, daily. Um, they're using overtime to help comply with, uh, minimum staffing requirements. Uh, and various STAs, um, that are either now are now including the salaries or in the case of the accreditation, uh, it's no longer offered. Set.\n\nSpeaker 2: Any questions on the salary, Mr. Conner? On that civil service? You're now allowed to go outside the service. Well, one, the person or persons is hired. They didn't have a single service, so it's not a total name, it's just for hiring. Um, then on the expenses line, um, section, I'm gonna talk about the sum page. I'm convicted, talked about a couple items. Um, but the only significant changes here are that behavior command across the town. Um, the collective bargaining, um, uh, significant, uh, developments. The two unit con parting unit contracts, the fiscal of 22, 3, 27 and grade two and submitted to a vote.","timeStart":633.145,"timeEnd":742.925,"chunkIndex":5},{"id":"2dbc6628-6865-4d94-a809-683d9a98d498","content":"Speaker 2: Um, the two unions are ranking officers, police, patrol, . So fiscal 27, if you remember on page two, four, uh, there's a amount of 1 million for, uh, fiscal 27 contracts, firefighter. And of that ranking we got, um, six, seven, 1000 and total we thousand three, 98,000. Now for the year prior, uh, 2220, um, there are amounts, uh, that have been approved by the meeting. Um, but the concern that, uh, is that those amount time solution to cover increases, but actually negotiated . Um, so when Julie and Jim were here, account manager and the deputy account manager, uh, were here, um, a couple weeks ago, um, they could, uh, discuss briefly ask, um, for some funds from the reserve fund. And um, so they're pretty confident they'll have to have to be there. Um, I spent a few minutes with Julie the other night, uh, walking through, um, what she calculations of things she's had to do and they're, they're pretty mind bog.","timeStart":745.705,"timeEnd":832.065,"chunkIndex":6},{"id":"b4c92865-c5e6-4ab9-b67d-af667c84d486","content":"Speaker 2: Um, prior to her I got lost in detail. 30 seconds. Um, next slide. Um, Sophie, I mean you had a question last year about that. Bills. Um, so the, uh, that line item that is the, I'm sorry, carrot dog line item 53, 8,001, uh, one respons for the two dogs. One patrol dog. The other is Officer Roger, um, the comfort dog. Um, and that might covers fluid, that service equipment and boarding. And the chiefs, trust me, the boarding for K Echo, um, has to be carefully done because you look at, you look at him, um, that's, that's a dog hang, be very careful with. Yeah. And then training, uh, there is some money, you might know more about this. There is some money. Um, uh, the, uh, grant from, it was from the, um, I'm blanking out the organization on the Roger Original Rotary. Okay, thank you. Um, uh, and there was training money there. He did get, um, some certificates. Um, exactly what they, I dunno if there's anyone left there, any, any training not covered by that would come out the file. They haven't come back Hills funding. I don't think they would think they here. Yeah.","timeStart":832.405,"timeEnd":931.635,"chunkIndex":7},{"id":"546a1dc0-6666-41ce-8986-0fce9e86d5e7","content":"Speaker 2: Alright. And then body-worn cameras. This has been around, um, for years. Um, so for longer one that might have to remember this one on whole pending resolution of the, uh, union contracts, which are now on the verge of being developed. Um, assuming that the time meeting passes, the proof of two contracts, uh, body-worn cameras will be implemented, um, sometime after July 1st. Um, the department are already acquired the hardware, um, but obviously hasn't started, um, paying from any, the software, uh, the redaction tools, et cetera. There's 89,000 item, um, 5, 5 8 2. Um, the department bought, um, seven cameras in June of three. Um, and the vendor has agreed that, um, uh, they verify a contract with the vendor directly frozen. So that's really to start until, um, when the cameras deployed. Um, so instead of just having about three years left, they'll have a full five. Uh, and then Axon has agreed to upgrade cameras to whatever current, um, model is, um, . Um, they completed the policy, they worked with meetings, um, they based them on state practices and they will be close to public. The cameras are rolled out and you can see the language here from the, the memorandum of understanding and, um, stretch or not. Um, so unless there's any questions,\n\nSpeaker 3: The, um, probation","timeStart":934.765,"timeEnd":1062.965,"chunkIndex":8},{"id":"a2a29e3f-733b-4d2a-a222-7d2320115f24","content":"Speaker 2: That was not stopped, I'm assuming you went to figure out Darl. Did you learn what determines the proper number of ranking officers and, and patrol in the, um, total chart proper number or the number that they have? I wouldn't know, but what the proper number? So that was, well the total number police officer, there's 19, 19 and 49. How do we know that's the rank number? There's also minimum, yeah, it's, it's always been a, um, the ranking approximately two for one, two, right? The , two of them one, um, it varies for me right now that I'm aware of. They have three captains. Some years they have two, sometimes they have four depending upon who's, who's going retire, who's. But all these processes that have to go through plus the police , uh, uh, they work in progress now because now you don't have to go, some community don't have to go to the state.","timeStart":1075.405,"timeEnd":1177.765,"chunkIndex":9},{"id":"91a44e6f-0918-4978-ae47-e6d4f7ce7faa","content":"Speaker 2: you, you can have no cross in house. A lot of 'em go into that. Uh, so answer question, um, there's three shifts. That'd be three shift commanders. You can tell by the, uh, if you did the salary page, ranking loss, if you just add up, that would give you the number. It it's captains, lieutenant captains, lieutenants, s, those are other ranking loss. And then, then patrol detectives are considered, unless they had rank lieutenant gall ance that they considered patrol loss. So the chief did gimme the details on the minimum staff. So uh, they said there are three shifts, um, for the, um, 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM and the 12:00 AM 8:00 AM shift, the minimum is five office, uh, five officers plus patrol supervisor and shift commander. Uh, on the 4:00 PM to uh, midnight shift, the minimum is seven officers, but one patrol supervisor and one shift commander. Uh, and then for policing purposes, the town is divided into six areas. You need assign an officer to each area and most of the time officer responsible for cutting through area code. So I assume if you did the math, that's, that wouldn't\n\nSpeaker 3: Fall out.\n\nSpeaker 2: That make sense today? Yes. And I just quickly, this 18 presently county of the chief rank. Thank you. That's all I have.\n\nSpeaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. So, um, my understanding is that, so my opinion, Carol, is that there's um, an addition man, um, we come for officers who need to go to court, right? So some sad,\n\nSpeaker 2: Sorry, we can't hear","timeStart":1178.165,"timeEnd":1310.205,"chunkIndex":10},{"id":"30f2573d-0e7e-4804-ac99-601d9d728693","content":"Speaker 3: What I was saying is that individual manning officers need to attend court if there's a appeal of ticket or a case or whatever. And so we also have to count for being sure we had enough patrol and allowed officer to be out of the town to . So that has to, so a quick question I had, um, just curious, I was looking at last year's budget and there had been a comment that you gave us that on the r and b vehicles there was a chance there'd be a decrease of DPW motor equipment repairs could handle repairs. Has that, have they, has they not been able to or is that not\n\nSpeaker 2: Uh, didn't, did not ask,\n\nSpeaker 3: Didn't follow up. Okay. I was just a question. It's just a comment they made last year in your report. So I'm just curious since it didn't go down. Stuart, do you have any thought? That\n\nSpeaker 2: Sounds like a great question to ask EPW when we them on Friday.\n\nSpeaker 3: Thank you so much.\n\nSpeaker 2: Great, great time. You asked there and I'll ask the chief and hopefully the answers will sign up.\n\nSpeaker 3: , other questions on, uh, this,\n\nSpeaker 2: Okay, so I moved that, um, we approved the defense tax control, uh, from nine 701,647.","timeStart":1311.995,"timeEnd":1408.605,"chunkIndex":11},{"id":"4e651f6c-65ae-4d80-9a26-569b7608e7cd","content":"Speaker 3: All in favor of budget at 9 7 0 1 6 4 4. All opposed, any accepted please? Thank you . Um, um, two small things we can do with one. Um, let's do with the reserve fund. , this is the committee, the fund under finance committee control policy to the appropriate 1% and two, the reserve fund or us, um, oversee and typically it's used pay unexpected, um, expenses throughout the year. Uh, and uh, um, it additionally was that for Snow and Ices had been for a while under, under budget, but we had gotten handled upon that by our amount, uh, appropriated within a tenure year within an 8% of the tenure year believer. So that's, that's been uncontrollable still. We, we have things that pop up, um, as part of kind of the overrides find. Um, I had two sections I had thought about whether it is appropriate at this point to reduce the 1% to an amount that is, uh, more in line what we actually spend appropriate about. But then this year half and as Daryl pointed out, we may need all of that money. Um, so um, so that's a discussion for another day, uh, as to whether or not reserve appropriate. Um, so I um, would a motion to uh, do reserve second any further discussion about those reserve any questions? Any comments?","timeStart":1415.045,"timeEnd":1595.635,"chunkIndex":12},{"id":"da549279-af51-4311-93a9-02a3d9ceac94","content":"Speaker 3: Alright, all favor that Aye. Opposed? Um, another budget done. budget. What's on page 2 0 2 . So, um, I actually have a question about this, um, um, conversation Dave and I were having. Does, um, is this for helping, uh, seniors with like snow removal things like that? Voices for is something that, my understanding is that violence a limited number of students to work and get small mom and mom to help offset the, okay. Um, I was volunteering in the Den food pantry, my daughter and they um, the volunteers there were working off that taxes. So this is sort of similar, but we pay them in addition to them. I can, my understanding, understanding, but it is for them two hours to gain some money. It's not a whole lot. Um, the 2024 actual, is that typo for 75,000 primarily run? Is there further discussion question? All in favor say aye. Aye. Yes, Al. Al. Can you hear us? You're on mute. You're muted. Al\n\nSpeaker 5: I'm sorry, I couldn't hear the question.\n\nSpeaker 3: Do you have anything, any information about the warrant?\n\nSpeaker 5: Not yet. I, I've called a couple of times, um, and I haven't heard anything back. I'll try again tomorrow. Um, but this is usually when it's going back and forth so, uh, no, no new information.\n\nSpeaker 3: Okay. All right, thanks. So all um, does anyone have any other budget slip who have budgets on Wednesday? No. I'm gonna go down the list and get a sense of on the budgets and if you know you need the department head. So questions, um, lemme see it. No,","timeStart":1599.455,"timeEnd":1891.235,"chunkIndex":13},{"id":"a18d0c4c-506c-4a2a-ac8d-cbc690f3c436","content":"Speaker 2: I don't. She doesn't respond. We expect to meet with, uh, comp Retire board on uh, Thursday morning. So if as well we should budget on Monday. So we'll be here if you guys\n\nSpeaker 3: \n\nSpeaker 2: Go fast.\n\nSpeaker 3: Host\n\nSpeaker 2: Be Wednesday. Okay.\n\nSpeaker 3: Uh, parking? Haven't that yet. What's that? Have not met yet. You learn working\n\nSpeaker 2: On it.\n\nSpeaker 3: Jordan. Facilities.\n\nSpeaker 2: Facilities We've met with this past Friday, so, uh, we wanna put something together, um, for the committee and then there's a few other outstanding items and, uh, DPW is this coming Friday so hopefully most likely not next week, but the following week.","timeStart":1891.355,"timeEnd":1957.625,"chunkIndex":14},{"id":"b58a08dd-eee1-44d4-b473-232f0a42008d","content":"Speaker 3: Yeah, insurance normally is not ready until March, right? So we won't be meeting on Monday. Um, next Wednesday, this Thursday. But what it's going to go on , we will meet by Zoom next when we talk about the over take stand on the over, um, that will probably take a , but if we have time, I'd like do budgets do next. We, and sounds like there should be some budgets we can do if we have time discuss since it doesn't look like we're gonna have anything to talk about. Um, Wednesday. Yeah, tomorrow. Second that I understand that it's a stress on the many days . So if you get your budgets lined up, um, because in March we're gonna have Minuteman and capital budget and the water bodies and CPA things schools, um, Josh and Peggy and Dean, do you have a date for the schools? No, I don't. We don't. Um, I don't think we, um, I think they're sort of still waiting to see what can overrun. Well they need a budget before feels like, so I talked to Cy briefly left, ask her to see if this rules get something together to meet that last Monday the 23rd. Can you check to see if third try to get them to agree to the 23rd? Yeah.\n\nSpeaker 2: Client on the 23rd March.\n\nSpeaker 3: Yeah, Monday the 12th.\n\nSpeaker 2: I think they just, the target\n\nSpeaker 3: They, they're, they're obviously having but getting of their budgets ready.\n\nSpeaker 2: Yeah, but they're, this year they're having to do two budgets,","timeStart":1958.455,"timeEnd":2131.725,"chunkIndex":15},{"id":"82343ac8-008e-4d54-ade4-4fb23750df95","content":"Speaker 3: Right? Right. That will be hopefully the 20. They can come in earlier better. Right. So no meeting on Wednesday, no meeting on Monday. We will be meeting via Zoom and the final will send out the link for the next Wednesday that go override many budgets as we can. And then after that we have some committees and commissions coming in doing try to get as much done. Any questions?\n\nSpeaker 2: John? Just, just curious why, uh, next Wednesday is Zoom\n\nSpeaker 3: Because I know a lot of people are traveling for away on February school week. Um, so I'm trying to accommodate a, I'm trying to accommodate them and b I'm hoping by doing this Zoom, everyone will be able to attend. Um, so regardless of whether or how tired you are or whether you are screaming babies or she playing grandmas, you'll still be able to participate because, because the town will wanna know where the finance committee stands. And I would like 21 people, at least 20 people to be voting and not have eight, seven type of vote. So please what's that?\n\nSpeaker 2: Is, is there anything you talk about tonight regarding that or\n\nSpeaker 3: I have to look\n\nSpeaker 2: You mean like an overall approach that they're, the numbers totally depend on\n\nSpeaker 3: I, my understanding. That's why, why sad did you taking to be out that morning? That It goes back do, do I think maybe they know what the amount will be? Amount what? Maybe, I don't know. Ajour\n\nSpeaker 1: .","timeStart":2132.015,"timeEnd":2308.735,"chunkIndex":16}]}}}